Truly embrace contingency
“Why put us together to chat?”
The recording of this episode of “The Screws Are Tightening” took place late at night in Beijing time during the National Day holiday. The anchor Wu Qi and the guests—art historian Wu Hong and film director Huang Shuli, from their residences in Asia, Europe and America, repeatedly asked themselves this question.
Judging from the ages, occupations and works of several of them, although they are not completely mismatched, they are at least somewhat mixed, which is an unexpected combination. But when they put aside their grand problems and started chatting from the very trivial and flickering “small moments” in their respective lives, the two creators, who are more than half a century apart in age, discovered that their latest work – “Leopard Tracks: Related to Memory” And “When I Look at You” – contains similar personalities and prose.
Aside from the big history, they went back to the interior of creation and life, and talked about the subtle changes they experienced during the “small time” when the new work was released? What are the potential and dangers of writing inward? By embracing contingency, can we walk out of the existing history and re-answer those difficult questions?
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Don’t talk about big history, talk about personal recent “small time”
——Wu Hung: The epidemic has made people retract their own experiences and open new connections at the same time
——Huang Shuli: Returning to the original family in confusion, seeing the direction of the heart
18:12
“Leopard Tracks” and “When I Look at You” are both art of time, both floating prose
27:50
Wu Qi: Exposing oneself is full of risks, even a new kind of struggle
31:40
Wu Hung: I always like to expand my original cognition and experience and push the boundaries of myself
37:21
Wu Hung: I am more fascinated by spiritual traces and ruins, and I am less willing to paint reality naked
42:37
Huang Shuli: Recently I often feel “spiritual nudity”
43:49
Creators Face External Pressure: Turn Off Some Signals
Facing Ego Stress: Constantly Standing on the Edge
1:02:05
Huang Shushu: Writing is not exhausted
Wu Hung: The label of Queer cannot sum up “When I look at you”
1:17:02
Huang Shuli: We have seen too many idols in the process of education
1:18:53
“Who am I?” The right to interpret this question should belong to you
1:19:26
Wu Hung: I will speak cautiously about identity politics
1:24:43
To be an author, you need your inner world to find your hero in the book
1:36:36
Wu Qi: Authorship and style actually come from those who truly embrace contingency
Books mentioned in the conversation
Leopard Tracks: Related to Memory, by Wu Hung
“Object·Painting·Shadow: A Brief History of the World of the Dressing Mirror” by Wu Hung
The Story of Ruins: Presence and Absence in Chinese Art and Visual Culture, by Wu Hung
Films mentioned in the conversation
“When I Look at You” (2022), directed by Huang Shuli, won the Best Short Film at the 75th Cannes International Film Festival Queer Palm
The Music Room (জলসাঘর, 1958), directed by Satyajit Ray
“Goodbye, Paradise” (2021), director: Wang Erzhuo, photographer: Huang Shuli, won the New Wave Award at the 26th Busan International Film Festival
Music of this issue
Rocky Trail, Kings of Convenience
*Easter eggs
*Comes with a beautiful Italian Riviera
Interactive way
If you have any thoughts or questions about this topic or this program, please feel free to leave a message in the comment area of each listening platform, or Weibo Wu Qi @ wuqi,huangshu @huangshu , and interact with the anchors and guests. In the next episode of the show, we will select some questions and the anchor Wu Qi will answer them.
“The Screws Are Tightening” will be online on certain Thursdays of every month, and look forward to screwing together next time!
Producer: Peng Qianyuan
Producer: Hu Yaping
Editor: Cai Zhiqin
Editing: Ang
Visual Design: Li Zhengke, Yang Ruowei
Program operation: Liu Yuxuan
Original Music: Xu Xiaoxiao
Intern: Lin Xingyu
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