From the front line of environmental protection
The beginning of autumn has arrived, and the summer heat has not yet dissipated. The severe climate change has drawn people into a whirlpool of worry. When we are concerned about the long journey of a group of wild elephants and the pain of the extinction of the Yangtze river white sturgeon, what is the specific problem and where is the specific solution? Will the future be good? Will the earth abandon humans? Is there a misalignment between lively public discussions and conservation practices on the front lines? Waiting for questions, steaming in the heat.
The guest of this issue of “The Screws Are Tightening” is Lu Zhi, professor of conservation biology at Peking University and director of the Shanshui Nature Conservation Center. When anchor Wu Qi was still studying at Peking University, she was already a legend on campus. In her 37-year career, she has always combined research and practice, and has been active in the front lines of nature conservation in Qinling Mountains, Qinghai-Tibet Plateau and other places. Witnesses of the conservation process.
In the program, she talked about how to place people’s place in nature conservation, understanding the situation of local people in conservation actions as an outsider; and as an ordinary person, what efforts can be made in daily life to truly care about what we have. environment to live and survive.
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05:09
Has the public’s attention to nature really turned into practice?
13:02
Looking back on 37 years of nature conservation
– 1980s: The tug of war between humans and animals
– 1990s: Money!
——The 1998 “Logging Ban”: A Milestone for Environmental Protection
21:25
Lu Zhi: “there is a will, there is a hope”
30:45
“A practice in the name of ecology is not necessarily good for ecology”
47:14
The biggest obstacle to sustainable development
– Use a single indicator to measure good or bad
51:59
Do you prefer a clean lawn, or a messy green space?
55:11
Building a “protected area” from the side: Taking Peking University as an example
59:14
Don’t waste food!
1:13:14
When the demands of environmental protection and survival collide, “ecological fairness” is very important
1:15:05
Learning from Tibetan civilization: all things have animism and all living beings are equal
1:37:09
Looking for real answers without being bound by academic and political frameworks
1:40:56
“When you can’t do it, you don’t have to fold yourself in”
Books mentioned in the conversation
“Natural Sanctuary for Giant Pandas in Qinling Mountains”, written by Peking University, Shaanxi Changqing Forestry Bureau and Giant Panda Research Group
The Limits to Growth by Denera Meadows, Jorgen Landers, Dennis Meadows
public figures mentioned in the conversation
Pan Wenshi, animal ecologist, professor of the School of Life Sciences, Peking University, director of the Giant Panda and Wildlife Conservation Center, and director of the Chongzuo Biodiversity Research Base
Edward Osborne Wilson (1929-2021), American entomologist, naturalist, and biologist
Kaiping Peng, Professor of the Department of Psychology and Dean of the School of Social Sciences, Tsinghua University
Fang Wang, Ph.D. in Zoology, Research Fellow, School of Life Sciences, Fudan University
Arne Næss (1912-2009), Norwegian philosopher, professor of philosophy at the University of Oslo
Xiang Biao, Director of the Max Planck Institute for Social Anthropology, Germany
Liu Shaohua, Anthropologist, Associate Researcher, Institute of Ethnology, Academia Sinica, Taiwan
Jared Mason Diamond, American evolutionary biologist, physiologist, biogeographer, and author of non-fiction
organizations mentioned in the conversation
Shanshui Nature Conservation Center, established in 2007, focuses on the protection of species and habitats, and hopes to demonstrate the path and method of harmonious coexistence between man and nature through the balance of ecological protection and economic and social development.
The “Let Migratory Birds Fly” public welfare fund is a special fund with the theme of protecting wild birds and their habitats.
CFCA (Chinese Felid Conservation Alliance) is a non-governmental volunteer team jointly established by ecology enthusiasts and scientists, focusing on Chinese wild cats such as the North China Leopard.
iNaturalist (iNat for short) is a citizen science project implemented through social networks, aiming to allow people around the world to discover, record and share information about species around them.
items mentioned in the conversation
The “Natural Forest Protection Project”, which was implemented in 1998, is a symbol of China’s forestry industry’s transition from wood production to ecological construction.
“Shanshui, Forest, Field, Lake and Grass Ecological Protection and Restoration Project” refers to the process and activities of overall protection, systematic restoration and comprehensive management of damaged, degraded and serviced ecosystems within a certain area in accordance with the concept of community of life.
“Beijing million mu afforestation”, in 2012, Beijing launched the first round of afforestation and greening work of one million mu. After two consecutive five-year two rounds of afforestation of one million mu, 2.02 million mu of new afforestation was added.
“Citizen Scientists in the City”, jointly initiated by Shanshui Nature Conservation Center and Wang Fang’s research team of Fudan University, and supported by Huatai Securities’ “Benefiting Huatai” public welfare project and Amity Foundation, work with citizens to research and protect urban wild animals.
“China’s tallest tree”, the second comprehensive scientific expedition to the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau discovered the tallest tree in my country so far – a Yunnan yellow fruit fir with a height of 83.2 meters.
Knowledge points mentioned in the conversation
The environmental Kuznets curve, which considers the environmental quality to be an inverted U-shaped curve with the increase of per capita income.
Citizen Science refers to scientific research involving public participation, including scientific research activities participated by non-professional scientists, science enthusiasts and volunteers, covering scientific problem exploration, new technology development, data collection and analysis, etc.
Canopy closure refers to the degree to which the tree crowns in the forest cover the ground. It is the ratio of the vertical projection area of the tree crowns to the forest land area, and is often expressed by the ten-point method.
Ruins refer to the land that has not yet grown new forests after forest logging and burning.
Deep Ecology, proposed by Arne Ness, breaks the long-standing anthropocentric value of life and believes that in order to understand, deal with and solve ecological problems, the relationship between man and nature must be understood from the perspective of the entire ecosystem considered as a whole.
places mentioned in the conversation
Pingwu County, Sichuan Province, known as the “First County of Giant Pandas”
Sanjiangyuan National Park, located in the hinterland of the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau and the southern part of Qinghai Province, includes 3 parks including the source of the Yangtze River, the source of the Yellow River, and the source of the Lancang River
Shaanxi Yangxian
Medog County, Tibet
Qamdo, Tibet
Changqing National Nature Reserve, located near Huayang Town, Yang County, Hanzhong City, Shaanxi Province (belonging to the Qinling Mountains)
animals mentioned in the conversation
Asian elephant, panda, crested ibis, white sturgeon, finless porpoise, baiji
Music of this issue
Both Sides Now, Joni Mitchell
Interactive way
If you have any thoughts or questions about this topic or this program, please feel free to leave a message in the comment area of each listening platform, or Weibo Wu Qi @wuqi , Lu Zhi @lvzhi , and interact with the anchors and guests. In the next episode of the show, we will select some questions and the anchor Wu Qi will answer them.
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Producer: Peng Qianyuan
Producer: Hu Yaping
Editor: Cai Zhiqin
Visual Design: Li Zhengke, Yang Ruowei
Program operation: Liu Yuxuan
Original Music: Xu Xiaoxiao
Intern: Lin Xingyu
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